[neutral]

What is the govt planning to do now after puting a stay on declaration of results ?? I wonder when will this ordeal of "waiting for results" end. I just hope that results are declared soon so that all of us can get on with our lives. Everything has been put on hold for the results!

I have been living in a "FOR" loop for more than a month now and not letting nothing new happen in my life other than checking PG every few minutes !!

[subodh_iit]

Originally Posted by sahasid

I keep hearing this sob story abt an oBC guy who left his "MNC job" after seeing his name on IIFT list and is now getting spooked by the supreme court order.. if this is true, i can understand his situation.. but, has it not dawned on nybody that this is one classic example that reaffirms what we all know.. that quotas seldom help those who need help.. all it does is make life very easy for the "creamy layer".. look at this guy.. working comfortably in an "MNC".. and about to get an easy ride to an institute like IIFT..

What are u trying to convey? Should only those who live uncomfortably come forward to apply under reservation ?

It is not exactly his fault that IIFT selected him. And going by this logic, isn't it safe to conclude that all MBA institutes should not give admissions to MNC guys. Because they are anyways placed in MNCs . Why not select those who are not yet placed in MNCs or are living uncomfortably (as u have equated the MNC job as comfortable living).

Your conclusion "Quotas seldom helps those who need them most" is right, but probably u needed to put them in better words. And I still do not understand why is all the fuss about creamy layer. Any reservation is bad - creamy layer or no creamy layer.

Besides, creamy layer exclusion will mean that quality of input will further deteriorate .

[RClarge]

Originally Posted by sahasid

. that quotas seldom help those who need help.. all it does is make life very easy for the "creamy layer".. look at this guy.. working comfortably in an "MNC".. and about to get an easy ride to an institute like IIFT..

Reservations main emphasis is on social equality and has to do little with economic equality...If this guy is availing the option of quota in spite of having a fat job ..thats bcoz GoI believes that by providing the opportunities ,this guy will also help raise the social status of his family ..relatives..and other persons who needs suitable guidance and support

[subodh_iit]

Some more updates: From UPA Meet

Yechury suggested that if the stay cannot be vacated and the OBC reservation not implemented right away from the next academic session, the extra seats and infrastructure facilities provided to the Indian Institutes of Management (IIMs) and the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) to implement the quota should be withdrawn till the policy is implemented.

Less concerned about the candidates, the messiah of masses is concerned about public money that he can gulp in scams.

The socially and economically advanced among the other backward classes (OBCs) may not get the benefits of the new educational quota policy as the government prepares its case to urge the Supreme Court to lift its stay on the new policy.

Law ministry has told Government it will be hard for them to get the stay vacated if they press with creamy layer inclusion.

Baalu and Ramadoss also felt that the two-judge bench had not categorically stayed the OBC reservation policy and there was need to read its order carefully and interpret it rightly.

Am I seeing a new twist.

Source: andhracafe.com - Review plea may skim off OBC creamy layer

[porus]

common guys, reservation is a very sensitive topic and ur views shall change based on which side of the fence u r... but lets all not forget tht with this nasty steps from the central govt. it is we the aspirants who tend to lose. and as i hv pointed out already it is not the few set of ppl waiting admissions at iims/iits/iift/nitie getting affected, it has much larger impact... but for these calls v will not c much waitlist movement

so guys is there any step we as students can think of, like moving to supreme court for a directive to govt not to play with future of students... after all we knw all the political leaders look for is just the vote bank, not the future of u guys - even the ones under OBC whom they themselves portray to stand for

[warrior]

Originally Posted by porus

common guys, reservation is a very sensitive topic and ur views shall change based on which side of the fence u r... but lets all not forget tht with this nasty steps from the central govt. it is we the aspirants who tend to lose. and as i hv pointed out already it is not the few set of ppl waiting admissions at iims/iits/iift/nitie getting affected, it has much larger impact... but for these calls v will not c much waitlist movement

so guys is there any step we as students can think of, like moving to supreme court for a directive to govt not to play with future of students... after all we knw all the political leaders look for is just the vote bank, not the future of u guys - even the ones under OBC whom they themselves portray to stand for

If you wanna hit, hit now and hit it so such that it makes some news.
Its the best time. Reason - Elections for one of the biggest states (in terms of vote bank) is going on. Considering the as usual fractured mandate even a slight shift can make a differnce and yes UP matters ( atleast for vote bank perpective ) for all parties a lot and defeat in this state means a lot( considering that almost all our PM and prospective PM are from UP).

[neutral]

Just for the info.

The full text of judgement: Full text of the judgement staying the implementation of OBC reservations at Remembering Gujarat at National Highway

Some Counterview:
Law and Other Things: A reluctant 'stay' on the basis of flawed reasoning

[karl]

i think one thing you guys are overlooking,is the iit and iim angle the kind of publicity and awe they attract from the media,is that I don't think govt will be this much foolish to procastinate!
In Fact sources from TOI have quoted in the paper that govt is keen on to get a vacate on the stay order,in this week itself!.So keep praying!

[evergreen_cool]

Originally Posted by karl

i think one thing you guys are overlooking,is the iit and iim angle the kind of publicity and awe they attract from the media,is that I don't think govt will be this much foolish to procastinate!
In Fact sources from TOI have quoted in the paper that govt is keen on to get a vacate on the stay order,in this week itself!.So keep praying!

i hope to god this is true...cant bear a bloody month long wait..:/

[hardilip]

Since there were a some calls saying the OBC candidate who got thro in IIFT resigned his job and now is at crossroads should not get his admission....I thought it might be appropriate to stress some points....

All those who scream that the person has no right to sob...

1)U get an option to mark OBC in the application form......ITS EVERY PERSON FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT THAT HE CAN MARK IT....He dint go to streets asking for this....
he got an option marked it....I am sure most of the Forward caste guys will mark FC if there was an option for FC and say a reservation of 30%.....Common guys grow up..... Its a competetive world and everybody will try to take watever advantage they can take.... And by no means is this illegal......

2)He got an admission offer from IIFT...And then he has every right to resign his job and if they cant honour thier offer...obviously his career is in jeopardy.....And IIFT is very much responsible for it.....IF we being fellow students cant understand his plight then who can.....

3)U go on saying the govt is bad(which it is)......but the most stupid thing has been done by the SC by staying the implementation at this point of time.....Even if u take ,the reservation was only 5%-7% this year in all institutes which is a very minimum count...... They should have taken the students plight into consideration and if they cant u can never term this decision as one which is good and the judges dont deserve to be in the apex court......

4)And some who say sub standard students coming in due to OBC......do you guys know what is the procedure followed in selecting the canditates...There is a lot of confusions on it still so u cant say whatever comes to your mind and hurt others....Born OBC does not mean they are sub-standard......puys kindly refrain from making these type of comments.....


Lets all join together to fight this cause and not divide......this is wat the politicians want divide and rule....now if educated people like we say that its fault of the OBC candidate and he should be left in cold waters.....consider the case of uneducated people...... I feel the politicians have read the pulse of the nation and by getting this topic they have fueled a lot of fire and getting the OBC quota done will get them a lot of votes for sure...........

Debates are welcome(whoever wants to say the guy had no rights to sob come up with some valid points it can be countered easily....I strongly feel he is the most affected and should get his seat)....

Thanks& Regards
Dilip